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Date: September 07, 2023
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2015
Pursuant to Regulation 30(6) of the Securities and Exchange Board of India (Listing
Obligations and Disclosure Requirements), Regulations, 2015, it is hereby informed that the
official(s) of the Company will be interacting on Saturday, September 09, 2023 through
virtual call with Investor(s)/analyst(s) in response to the requests received. Any request for
meeting / call after this announcement to the Stock Exchanges shall be considered for next
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For HBL Power Systems Limited
Jae fo
E Sairam
Chief Financial Officer
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HBL Power Systems Limited
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HBL POWER SYSTEMS LIMITED
INFORMATION FOR SHAREHOLDERS
September 09, 2023
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WHAT DOES HBL DO?
¢ Organizing Engineering talent to fill Technology Gaps is HBL’s purpose.
¢ There are six pillars to HBL’s strategy, which are based on the founder’s
background in learning, teaching and practicing, both technology
development and management.
¢ Specialized Batteries for Defence and Industry happened to be the first
domain to which this strategy was applied.
¢ But HBL has later applied it to Defence Electronics, Railway Signaling,
Electronic Fuzes and Electric Truck Drive Trains.
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STRATEGY PILLARS 1,2 AND 3
1. Because most Indian companies rely on foreign technical collaborations, but foreign
companies are unwilling to transfer technology, technology gaps exist in the Indian
market. These gaps offer business opportunities, for those with the Technical
judgement in deciding which products can be developed with available engineering
talent.
2. The Business judgment is in choosing niche markets (too small for big firms and
too hard for small firms) to create secure market spaces for a long period of time,
so each business can survive infant mortality.
3. With success, there will be less competition. Better prices will lead to a good return
on investment. HBL has succeeded technically in most attempts so far; and
commercially, even if with long delays, in enough attempts to be what it is today.
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STRATEGY PILLARS 4, 5 AND 6
4. A single product is too big a risk for a small company. So, a portfolio
was developed with related products (in both technology and market
extensions).
5. HBL chose Specialized Batteries, Electronics and Electric Motors as the
set of related technologies within which to develop businesses
without foreign collaborations.
6. To develop technology indigenously, HBL taps diverse sources of
talent, and encourages an entrepreneurial spirit within the company.
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BUSINESSES SEGMENTED BY EXPECTED GROWTH RATES HBL
INDUSTRIAL BATTERIES DEFENCE & AVIATION BATTERIES INDUSTRIAL ELECTRONICS
Low Growth Decent Growth Rapid Growth
Decent EBITDA Good EBITDA Good EBITDA
All Lead Batteries Batteries for Torpedoes, RAIL SIGNALING ELECTRONICS
Submarines and other underwater applications Kavach, Electronic Interlock, TMS
All Nickel Batteries Nickel Aviation Batteries DEFENCE ELECTRONICS :
except Aviation Electronic Fuzes for Ammunition
Lithium Batteries for Small Energy Storage Lithium Missile Batteries INDUSTRIAL ELECTRONICS :
Systems and E —Trucks Motors & Controllers for Electric Tucks
R&D currently in progress. Results may appear only in FY 2027
Advanced Chemistry State of the Art batteries for Torpedoes. Power Electronics needed for
Stationary Batteries for B2B Energy Lithium batteries for defence and aviation. B2B Energy Storage Systems
Storage Systems
Note : Investors interested in details of the products/applications are referred to the Annexure to this presentation
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Disclaimer
This presentation contains certain forward looking information concerning HBL’s future business
prospects and business profitability, which are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties and
the actual results could materially differ from those in such forward looking statements.
The risks and uncertainties relating to these statements include, but are not limited to
fluctuations in earnings, our ability to manage growth, competition (both domestic and
international), economic growth in India and the target countries for exports, ability to attract
and retain highly skilled professionals, time and cost over runs on contracts, government policies
and actions with respect to investments, factors, regulations, interest rates and other fiscal costs
generally prevailing in the economy. The company does not undertake to make any
announcement in case any of these forward looking statements become materially incorrect in
future or to update any forward looking statements made from time to time by or on behalf of
the company. No part of this presentation shall be reproduced, copied, forwarded to any third
party either in print of in electronic form without prior express consent of the company.
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MACRO ECONOMIC TAIL WINDS FOR HBL PRODUCTS
¢ Batteries made by HBL are replacement products for essential infrastructure.
Demand is less subject to the state of the overall economy, thus more stable.
¢ Electronic signaling is a priority investment for the Railways because it enables
higher utilization of existing track infrastructure. Safety is a bonus.
¢ Defence indigenization is at last being taken seriously.
¢ Electric mobility is necessary for energy security. Reduce petroleum imports.
Trucks consume a lot of diesel and diesel prices will continue to go up.
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POTENTIAL SALES BY BUSINESS SEGMENT, OVER NEXT 3 YEARS HBL
Please read Disclaimer again!
“There is many a slip, between the cup and the lip” Rs. Crores
Traditional Emerging
Low Growth Rapid Growth TOTAL | EBITDA
YEAR FY 24, Plus SALES EBIDTA
Industrial Batteries Industrial Electronics %
FY 23 1027 205 118 1350 167 12
Capex FY Excluding equity Investment in
24 37 18 35 Tonbo Imaging Ltd of 150 cr
FY 24 1060 220 470 1750 262 15
FY 25 1100 250 950 2300 414 18
FY 26 1160 300 1440 2900 522 18
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BASIC STRENGTHS OF THE COMPANY
¢ HBL has developed the technology for most of its products in house and
has freedom to export and sell technology. Physical and intellectual
infrastructure already exists to support steady growth.
¢ HBL market position in India is # 1 or # 2 in all products, except telecom
tower batteries where it is # 3.
¢ Much of the cost of product development has been expensed.
This is one reason why the profitability has been low in recent years,
and why it will be higher in future.
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FINANCIAL METRICS
¢ Credit Rating by Care Edge: Longterm _A(Positive)
Short Term Al
¢ All bank obligations have been met for 40 years without any rescheduling.
¢ Debt is currently negative.
Total Debt / Net worth may be around 0.2 at the end of FY 24, after capex of Rs
90 crs and Rs 150 cr investment in Tonbo, and borrowing for working capital to
finance the growth, during FY24.
¢ Dividend policy is to increase it by 5% every year.
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CONCLUSION
For the next few years, R&D expenditure would be lower and working capital would
increase. The high capex of FY 24 will not be needed again in the next few years.
HBL avoids the risk of large Capex intensive projects, and should therefore have little
volatility in its financial performance.
HBL aspires to be a high value technology based business, like the leading
Mittelstand firms of Germany. We are on track to become one such company.
¢ Organizing Engineering Talent to fill Technology Gaps remains our purpose.
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ANNEXURE
BRIEF NOTES ON HBL BUSINESSES
September 09, 2023
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#1. Telecom Tower Batteries
«Most telecom batteries today are Valve Regulated Lead Acid.
HBL developed the technology in-house. This is a B2B procurement by
private telecom operators; and tender based by BSNL.
¢ There are now only three firms in the Telecom market in India, versus six
firms about 10 years ago.
¢ Amara Raja has the highest share, followed by Exide and then by HBL.
ARBL and Exide both expanded capacity only to find that the demand had
ee This excess capacity depressed prices and the margins are still
OW.
¢ Addition of 5G towers and return to normalcy on replacement schedules
of batteries for older towers (which was deferred when the operators
were impacted by JIO) will increase demand with effect from FY 24.
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# 2. Rail & Metro Coaches / Loco Batteries
¢ Every rail/ metro coach needs a battery. These are made as Lead
Acid or Nickel Cadmium Alkaline Batteries. HBL has been a
recognised supplier in India and in export markets of both types.
¢ HBL is the second largest producer of Industrial Nickel Cadmium
Batteries, globally.
¢ Siemens — Germany has selected HBL as the OEM supplier for their
new generation of coaches, called RRX. Siemens — America has
bought HBL batteries for coaches they sold to Canada.
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# 3. Batteries for Oil and Gas and Utility Industries een
¢ There are many industries where Nickel Cadmium Pocket Plate
Batteries are used because reliability and safety are of paramount
importance. Oil and Gas is one such industry.
¢ Reliance Industries Jamnagar Refinery has been using HBL batteries
since its inception.
¢ HBL has been successfully exporting these batteries for thirty years.
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# 4. DC Power Back up Systems
¢ Pure Lead Tin batteries are Lead batteries designed to deliver higher power
(more than automotive) for short durations. They are being used for stationary
engine starting (Cummins resells HBL made batteries under its brand).
Also used for Tanks, Army trucks operating at -30°C temperature etc.
¢ These batteries are now also being preferred for Data Centers.
HBL is the only producer in India and the second in the world, based on
in-house development of technology. HBL also has export markets.
¢ Lithium lon battery packs, Energy Storage Systems (ESS) supplied with
imported cells and HBL made Battery Monitoring Systems (BMS) are a market
where HBL brand has value.
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#5. Torpedo Batteries
¢ HBL is one of two suppliers in India which have been supplying
batteries for Torpedo Propulsion to the Indian Navy.
HBL also exports these batteries in limited numbers.
¢ HBL has two contracts from NSTL/ DRDO for development of
state of the art Al AgO Torpedo Batteries. Only two companies in
the world make such batteries today.
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# 6. Missile Batteries
¢ Most of the Missile Batteries used in India are designed,
developed and manufactured by HBL. Including for the
Agni V.
¢ HBL exports Missile Batteries to Israel and UAE.
¢ There are very few manufacturers of such batteries globally.
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# 7. Aircraft Batteries
¢ HBL took six years from 1977 — 1983, to develop technology for Sintered
Plate Nickel Cadmium Batteries. Today, HBL supplies almost all the batteries
used by the Indian air force.
¢ Globally, there are perhaps four other companies in this market.
¢ The FAA and EASA had certified HBL batteries as acceptable for Boeing 737
and Airbus 320 series of aircraft. But sales have not yet occurred, because
companies insuring aircraft want OEM’s to approve the batteries used.
However, OEMS are indifferent to the cost saving by buying from HBL.
¢ Company also received the clearance certificate for its product induction in
PILATUS, P8-I and V5 aircraft.
¢ Company continued to export batteries to Bombardier for use in Global 7500
aircraft and to Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) for use in UAVs.
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# 8. Submarine Batteries
¢ All submarine propulsion batteries in India are “Tubular plate flooded lead acid”.
¢ HBL and Exide supply the same types of batteries. Tenders decide who gets the
business. The average life of a submarine battery is four years; and indicative cost
about Rs. 15 crores.
¢ The market in India is small, but should grow. HBL also has export opportunities
because there are less than ten companies globally, making such batteries.
¢ HBL has been awarded a contract by NSTL/ DRDO to develop prototype modules for
Li lon batteries for Submarine application.
¢ HBL achieved the type approval process for Type-ll batteries meant for use in HDW
German (Shishumar) class submarines securing manufacturing clearance.
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#9. KAVACH (Train Collision Avoidance System) HBL
¢ HBL pioneered the system with help from RDSO; the demo trial occurred in October 2012
at Tandur, SCR. The Railways announced that they will install Kavach (TCAS) over at least
30,000km of track in ten years.
¢ There are now three companies approved for supply of TCAS. Interoperability among the
three designs has been established. New suppliers must also be interoperable with the
current suppliers and this is a time consuming process.
¢ HBL has four EPC contracts on hand for Rs. 686 crores. The EPC part is subcontracted.
The TCAS part varies from Tender to Tender. For tenders on hand, the TCAS part averaged
at 70%. Each contract needs around two years to complete.
¢ Expected service life of a TCAS system is 15 years. Electronics systems need maintenance,
and railways pay for this annually (after the first few years).
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#10. TMS (Train Management System) HBL
¢ A Train Management System is a master control centre where a
huge display panel shows the status of all trains in the territory of
that system. There are very few systems in use today in India; a few
imported and two from HBL.
¢ HBL is the only approved and proven Indian company for TMS. HBL’s
TMS System is certified for SIL - 2 by Bureau Veritas Spain.
¢ HBL’s Train Management System (TMS) has been inaugurated by the
General Manager of the Eastern Railway in Sealdah division of
Eastern Railway on August 31, 2023.
¢ Demand is expected to slowly grow from FY 2024. Compared to
TCAS, the value of business is small; at most 200 crs per year. A
typical price per system would be 40 to 50 crs.
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# 11 Electro Optics — Equity investment
¢ HBL has committed to invest in the equity capital of Tonbo Imaging India
Pvt Ltd, as informed earlier. So far Rs.86.67 crs has been invested in
Tonbo group.
¢ Tonbo Imaging is an Indian company that indigenously designs and
manufactures electro-optics and imaging systems for surveillance,
reconnaissance and targeting. Electro-optics and imaging subsystems are
“the eyes” and “the brain” of surveillance platforms and weapon systems.
¢ Over the last 10 years, Tonbo Imaging has built a large portfolio of
products addressing the needs of land, air, and missile systems. It counts
among its customers, global military forces, special forces and
international Tier | defense manufacturers.
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# 12. Electronic Drive Trains For Trucks
¢ Apart from Li lon cells, India currently imports motors & controllers for
most EVs made in India. HBL has been investing on in-house development
of all parts of the technology for Motors and Controllers since 2017 and
plans to test products on the highways in 2024.
¢ The business plan is to convert old diesel highway trucks to Electric Drive
using HBL made motors and batteries. The solution does not need subsidy.
The benefit to the operator varies based upon his use conditions.
Customers will be by invitation.
¢ Sales may begin in FY 2025. The number of old trucks is very large, but the
HBL solution will only be viable for a small percentage of them. Even so,
the scope is huge. At this time there are no competitors, because there is
no subsidy for electric trucks.
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# 13. Grenades with Electronic Fuzes
¢ Under a “Development cum Production Partner” contract with ARDE/
DRDO, grenades made by HBL have been approved by the Ministry of
Home Affairs for use by the paramilitary forces. Sales to MHA are
expected to begin FY 24 and increase rapidly.
¢ Electronic Fuzes are essential for reliability and safety. HBL is the only
Indian supplier for the Electronic Fuzes, and can also supply to other
firms making the rest of the grenades.
¢ Approval of the Army for their needs of Grenades is expected during
FY 24.
¢ HBL has facilities and licenses for handling explosive materials.
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# 14. Electronic Fuzes for Guns, Rockets, Bombs,....... HBL
A fuze is a complex device that ignites ammunition. Electronic fuzes are preferred to
mechanical fuzes because they are much more reliable.
¢ Over the last 15 years, HBL has developed 100% in-house technology for Electronic
Fuzes for grenades and other ammunition, including Artillery guns. HBL is the only
Indian company with 100% indigenisation.
¢ ECIL (DAE) and BEL (MoD) have been supplying Electronic Fuzes for artillery, with
import content of about 80% of Bill of Materials. MoD says it wants Atma Nirbhar.
¢ HBL fuzes have already been tested on army guns many times. Eligibility for bulk
supply is expected end FY 24.
¢ The market is huge and there are very few companies in this area globally. So, exports
are expected.
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# 15. HBL Capability in Defence Electronics LUT LES ie
¢ HBL has proven capability for manufacturing complex Defence
Electronics products. This capability is illustrated below:
> Digital Control Harness. A HBL/ELBIT(Israel) developed product
has been installed in nearly six thousand armoured vehicles, to be
used for communications in the battlefield. All new armoured
vehicles being built will use this DCH as original equipment.
HBL is the only supplier. The market is not very big.
>» Integrated Platform Management System and Steering Consoles
for four Scorpene (P75) Submarines, were built to print by HBL
and supplied to the OEM -— _ Naval Group; France.
All these submarines are now in operation.
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THANK YOU
HBL TEAM
14 Feb 2023